right a more styalized still of my skin shader. not as realistic but i think its got more personality. ive attached a picture of the hypershade im using if it will help anyone. using the wonderful mix20layer which you can find on http://www.pixero.com/ to plug the mia_material_x insted of the spec channel on the skin shader. as the misss fast skin shaders spec channel has some rubbish phong settings. no one likes them. so here you are result and how i got there. love to all.